Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 v2 Beta] [WillTylor]

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doccop63

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You know, it's funny that murlockwarlock wants to get in here calling people brain dead simps for supporting Will or other devs, stating that they should only pay for a finished product. If you claim that they are brain dead, what do you call all of those people who invest in the stock market? Oh Sure, there's thousands of stocks that are doing great and making money But, how do you think that they Got there? All of those stocks started out as Start Up Investments. People had to believe in the product enough to want to buy into. With many products, you don't even get much of a chance to even sample what you invest in. Do you think that early investors in Shell Oil got the opportunity to get free gas for their cars? When Apple first went public on the market, do you think they tried to put their product into every home first?
Devs do demos as a way to secure investors in their product. If enough people like the product or see potential in it, theyll invest in it. Are there shady devs and modders? Sure. Just like in the market (look up Enron). You can't stop the deviousness of a human being when they are set on being so. For the most part, Will and the team have been consistent and transparent with their work. Just like the market, there will be ups and downs but people willing to take a chance on this VN support it monetarily because it's worthwhile. That doesn't make them simps anymore than a person going to Vegas with their money playing the slots, roulette, or the blackjack tables. If you've been burned, you have the right to be pissed off but don't come in here pissing on everyone else's parade. Breathe dude.
 
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doccop63 said:
You know, it's funny that murlockwarlock wants to get in here calling people brain dead simps for supporting Will or other devs, stating that they should only pay for a finished product. If you claim that they are brain dead, what do you call all of those people who invest in the stock market? Oh Sure, there's thousands of stocks that are doing great and making money But, how do you think that they Got there? All of those stocks started out as Start Up Investments. People had to believe in the product enough to want to buy into. With many products, you don't even get much of a chance to even sample what you invest in. Do you think that early investors in Shell Oil got the opportunity to get free gas for their cars? When Apple first went public on the market, do you think they tried to put their product into every home first?
Devs do demos as a way to secure investors in their product. If enough people like the product or see potential in it, theyll invest in it. Are there shady devs and modders? Sure. Just like in the market (look up Enron). You can't stop the deviousness of a human being when they are set on being so. For the most part, Will and the team have been consistent and transparent with their work. Just like the market, there will be ups and downs but people willing to take a chance on this VN support it monetarily because it's worthwhile. That doesn't make them simps anymore than a person going to Vegas with their money playing the slots, roulette, or the blackjack tables. If you've been burned, you have the right to be pissed off but don't come in here pissing on everyone else's parade. Breathe dude.
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Man...what, stocks and supporting porn games on patreon just aren't the same thing. The point of stocks is to have a % of the company. Now unless i'm missing something i don't think Will gives you a % of his game and its profits? No.
And seriously? You bring Enron into a discussion about a degenerate incest porn game? Is there a vote for dumbest post of the year?
 
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Apparently, you took the analogy literally. It wasn't about monetary returns. :rolleyes: It's about getting a return on an investment, in this case it's an output ( or motivation thereof ) of quality content. Besides, the guy comes into the thread just insulting people simply because he's pissed off about something, or did you not read his post before you read mine. So if you think it's dumb, then vote on it, be my guest. I also notice how you want to make your reply simply about my post and not about the initiator of my reply. Tells me a lot by your selected absence of response.
 
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One one hand,
WillTylor
takes a long time updating his games - this is true and a fact.
On the other hand
WillTylor
does give quality updates that I appreciate, I rather have quality over a failing story arc made just to pump out material.
Now to the patrion money givers comment above.

Most companies have sponsors to make theyr product - handing in money to a creator to make money themselves - this pushes the creator to make faster and faster updates to meet the sponsors demands so they can make money, look at Activation Blizzard as an example, unfinished patches and games, they sell for a monthly income.

When the creator gets paid by stuff like patreon or other services, he gets paid under the same system as above, however he can choose when his updates are done - artistic freedom is more important then fast updates and cash flow from sponsorships. This has a downside too, he will never get as big as Activition blizzard, however he still got his dignity and artistic freedom to do whatever he likes in the game/games.

So tell me
murlockwarlock

Are people that buying skins in game, spending money on mobile games or game-time also simps?
Because at this moment your logic just failed to pass my comprehention of this matter.

To WillTylor:
Iv followed you since the first update of your game, came to it after playing DMD - and I find it far supperior - simply love it.
Looking forward to your next update, your the sole reason I come to F95 ones a week to see if there is a game update ready - and I get just as happy every time I see a new update up.
And if you do add pregnancy to this game, I would probably pass out of exitement.
Best of luck, your fan.

Grendof
 
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For the record - this is only game that I do a walkthru for. I still think it is better than 99% plus of what is on F95. (But your mileage may vary)
 
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PornSucks2011

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doccop63 said:
Apparently, you took the analogy literally. It wasn't about monetary returns. :rolleyes: It's about getting a return on an investment, in this case it's an output ( or motivation thereof ) of quality content. Besides, the guy comes into the thread just insulting people simply because he's pissed off about something, or did you not read his post before you read mine. So if you think it's dumb, then vote on it, be my guest. I also notice how you want to make your reply simply about my post and not about the initiator of my reply. Tells me a lot by your selected absence of response.
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Taking the analogy literally? How the hell else do you take an analogy? Metaphorically? Stocks is just idiotic analogy period.
 
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What kind of shitty "Brain Game" is this? Even If I won the 50$ bet it still runs the time until it runs out when it says I lost. Seriously?
 
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thealucid

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Grendof said:
One one hand,
WillTylor
takes a long time updating his games - this is true and a fact.
On the other hand
WillTylor
does give quality updates that I appreciate, I rather have quality over a failing story arc made just to pump out material.
Now to the patrion money givers comment above.

Most companies have sponsors to make theyr product - handing in money to a creator to make money themselves - this pushes the creator to make faster and faster updates to meet the sponsors demands so they can make money, look at Activation Blizzard as an example, unfinished patches and games, they sell for a monthly income.

When the creator gets paid by stuff like patreon or other services, he gets paid under the same system as above, however he can choose when his updates are done - artistic freedom is more important then fast updates and cash flow from sponsorships. This has a downside too, he will never get as big as Activition blizzard, however he still got his dignity and artistic freedom to do whatever he likes in the game/games.

So tell me
murlockwarlock

Are people that buying skins in game, spending money on mobile games or game-time also simps?
Because at this moment your logic just failed to pass my comprehention of this matter.

To WillTylor:
Iv followed you since the first update of your game, came to it after playing DMD - and I find it far supperior - simply love it.
Looking forward to your next update, your the sole reason I come to F95 ones a week to see if there is a game update ready - and I get just as happy every time I see a new update up.
And if you do add pregnancy to this game, I would probably pass out of exitement.
Best of luck, your fan.

Grendof
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I actually don't think Will even takes that long to update his games, usually.

I think this update is an outlier, sure. But it sounds like everything, from the writing to the image renders, have been finished for about a month now. The only thing remaining for Will to do is to script it all into the game.

He's just going through life issues right now. He'll push the patch out when it's all squared away.
 
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Murlock is actually right and it's something you can easily observe from a multitude of games in this site. It's even more common when you see the devs participating in the thread and it gets dumb as all fuck.

There are games with the abandoned tag, with no sign of updates, but you'll still see coomers slurping the people responsible for their fix. It's beyond sad.

Now, I don't really give a shit if most games here just stop being updated or take too long. What bugs me is the constant pity crap that I see everywhere. There's no update? Start and end with that, especially if dates are completely useless and meaningless, since it won't come out then. Personal crap to garner pity is just strategy to string along gullible fools.

I don't believe a thing said about a devs personal life in here and if any of you has any sense, you shouldn't either. To garner sympathy is the oldest trick in the book, for fuck's sake.
 
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Grendof said:
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No people buying cosmetics arent simps. They're morons killing video games by supporting live service games and corporate crap.
The fact that two of you posted massive walls of texts instead of just saying fuck off is hilarious. Idgaf. I just think its dumb the way SO MANY porn devs get an unlimited pass. I know WallTool isn't even that bad compared to many, but it doesn't mean he's good either.
Fundamentally, in politics or economics or relationships, if you have no standards- you get really really bad results.
Also rule number one of the internet, don't feed the trolls
 
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murlockwarlock said:
No people buying cosmetics arent simps. They're morons killing video games by supporting live service games and corporate crap.
The fact that two of you posted massive walls of texts instead of just saying fuck off is hilarious. Idgaf. I just think its dumb the way SO MANY porn devs get an unlimited pass. I know WallTool isn't even that bad compared to many, but it doesn't mean he's good either.
Fundamentally, in politics or economics or relationships, if you have no standards- you get really really bad results.
Also rule number one of the internet, don't feed the trolls
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I'm feeling really called out...back to my bridge I guess. medium-10-17-cm.jpg
 
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New update? Any info about it?
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The devs house was on fire, his PC crashed, his wife was ill, he was ill, the dog ate part of the update, he had to take care of his inlaws, he had to take care of his parents, his PSU broke, his Mobo broke, his GPU had the cable catch fire, his neighbour started renovating and was so loud he couldn't work, a meteor fell on his garden, his cat had an eye infection, the car broke down, there was a flood, the roof was leaking.

So stop asking he has had a rough time.
 
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PornSucks2011 said:
The devs house was on fire, his PC crashed, his wife was ill, he was ill, the dog ate part of the update, he had to take care of his inlaws, he had to take care of his parents, his PSU broke, his Mobo broke, his GPU had the cable catch fire, his neighbour started renovating and was so loud he couldn't work, a meteor fell on his garden, his cat had an eye infection, the car broke down, there was a flood, the roof was leaking.

So stop asking he's had a rough time.
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Oh, so the rumor he was kidnapped by aliens isn’t true??
 
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