If gas cost $10 a gallon...

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Current price in UK is around £1.37/Litre = £5.19/US Gallon = approx. $8.50/US Gallon. :crying:
 
I just set up my shop to produce bio-diesel. I collect vegetable oil from restaurants around town (they pay me to take it away), and I brew up the diesel here at home. This is totally legal and actually produces a much higher quality fuel than diesel you buy at the gas station. It also produces higher miles-per-gallon. If I drive my car really nicely, I'm getting 49 mpg in town.

The fuel costs me roughly 78 cents per gallon. As of now, my motorcycle is costing me more to drive per mile than my car is.

I think you're going to see a lot more of this sort of thing happening as fuel costs continue to grow.
 

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I just set up my shop to produce bio-diesel. I collect vegetable oil from restaurants around town (they pay me to take it away), and I brew up the diesel here at home. This is totally legal and actually produces a much higher quality fuel than diesel you buy at the gas station. It also produces higher miles-per-gallon. If I drive my car really nicely, I'm getting 49 mpg in town.

The fuel costs me roughly 78 cents per gallon. As of now, my motorcycle is costing me more to drive per mile than my car is.

I think you're going to see a lot more of this sort of thing happening as fuel costs continue to grow.

It's a neat concept, but I think that you're gonna run into trouble on the supply side of the equation. Really, considering that there will be 10 other guys in your neighborhood who also want to ''set up shop'', you might find yourself in a gun fight in ..the backo alleys behind the greasy spoon restaurants.... ''It's My grease!'' . . ''Oh NO it's NOT, it's MY GREASE!'' ...''Wanna bet'' ?:ak47:
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It's a neat concept, but I think that you're gonna run into trouble on the supply side of the equation. Really, considering that there will be 10 other guys in your neighborhood who also want to ''set up shop'', you might find yourself in a gun fight in ..the backo alleys behind the greasy spoon restaurants.... ''It's My grease!'' . . ''Oh NO it's NOT, it's MY GREASE!'' ...''Wanna bet'' ?:ak47:
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Absolutely true. So now is the time to establish relationships with restaurants to prove that you're a.) reliable and b.) a good guy. If it becomes really desperate, I won't let them pay me to take away the oil. That'll raise the cost per gallon by about 40 cents. Still not bad.

I'm producing enough that I'm storing it now. I have a big Lister engine on order from China. When I get that properly installed, I'll be off the grid for about 12 hours a day - pretty much all the time I'm home and awake.
 
It is around £6 per gallon here in Scotland just now. So convert that to what ever it is in Dollars. I'm guess it's around $10 dollars or so. And this is the norm. That's with taxes added by the way. The three heaviest taxed items in the UK is Petrol, Smokes and Alcohol. It is about £6 as well for certain types of smokes too. Per packet I mean. No wonder this place is called "Rip off Britain" it's a fucking con.
 
It is around £6 per gallon here in Scotland just now. So convert that to what ever it is in Dollars. I'm guess it's around $10 dollars or so. And this is the norm. That's with taxes added by the way. The three heaviest taxed items in the UK is Petrol, Smokes and Alcohol. It is about £6 as well for certain types of smokes too. Per packet I mean. No wonder this place is called "Rip off Britain" it's a fucking con.

The "sin tax" for smokes and booze doesnt' bother me nearly as much as the petro taxes. Gas is a neccesity for many people, especially in the U.S. And when they're jamming us up to the tune of a $3.00 for a few miles ride on the metro transit it makes it even more infuriating. I long for the days only 10 years ago when we were paying .99c a gallon.
 

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I just set up my shop to produce bio-diesel. I collect vegetable oil from restaurants around town (they pay me to take it away), and I brew up the diesel here at home. This is totally legal and actually produces a much higher quality fuel than diesel you buy at the gas station. It also produces higher miles-per-gallon. If I drive my car really nicely, I'm getting 49 mpg in town.

The fuel costs me roughly 78 cents per gallon. As of now, my motorcycle is costing me more to drive per mile than my car is.

I think you're going to see a lot more of this sort of thing happening as fuel costs continue to grow.

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My great hope is that as fuel prices continue to rise, more Americans (and the car companies) will look at alternative fuels, such as you're doing. Another great option is cellulosic ethanol - not corn or grain based ethanol though! One of the issues with cellulosic ethanol, when taken from switchgrass, is that the fuel source needs to be pretty close to the refining facility. But since you can grow switchgrass just about anywhere (especially on land that's not fit for growing crops), maybe that's not a major concern... depending on the infrastructure costs of the refining facilities. But we might as well accept that Exxon, BP and Royal Dutch Shell aren't going to (really) invest in ethanol or alternative fuels - for the same reason that Philip Morris isn't going to (really) invest in a stop smoking product. But what if Ford or GM or some other car company really got behind cellulosic ethanol production and created a distribution network with an alternative fuel company??? :clap:

And another point (rant): I often read criticism based on alternative fuels not being able to REPLACE fossil fuels within the foreseeable future. And people are right about that. But why do they need to totally replace fossil fuels? As long as production and use of alternative fuels (including hybrids) was high enough to decrease the demand for fossil fuels, wouldn't that alone be a good thing? And if the price of biodiesel or cellulosic ethanol was $3/gallon, anyone who would rather pay $10/gallon for gas still has the "freedom". :rolleyes:

Let the Chinese send their troops to the Middle East to secure their supply of oil. Screw 'em! I'd much rather be driving a twin turbo ethanol powered sports car or a turbo-biodiesel car in the near future. And whatever car company would get solidly behind that, I'd be a fan of for the rest of my life.
 
I just set up my shop to produce bio-diesel. I collect vegetable oil from restaurants around town (they pay me to take it away), and I brew up the diesel here at home. This is totally legal and actually produces a much higher quality fuel than diesel you buy at the gas station. It also produces higher miles-per-gallon. If I drive my car really nicely, I'm getting 49 mpg in town.

The fuel costs me roughly 78 cents per gallon. As of now, my motorcycle is costing me more to drive per mile than my car is.

I think you're going to see a lot more of this sort of thing happening as fuel costs continue to grow.

I always saw a potential problem with that. In some circumstances it can work because so few people are doing that, but what happens if in the future more an more people are creating their own bio-diesel and you have to keep competing with other people around you for the supply of grease, oil, and other matter to create the diesel from local places?

If it ever catches on then it's going to largely counteract the benefit and cost saving of creating it yourself in the first place.

My car is a bi-fuel. I drive on LPG (or auto gas as it's called elsewhere). My fuel costs are roughly 24 euro a week.

Hmmm...so it isn't do to your Cthulhu connections then? :1orglaugh
 
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