yuvce

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Yeah now they're enemies regardless of relationship points. Having them being friends could have been an interesting dynamic. Their confrontation at Ivy's birthday party could have been more interesting if they were friends. Would Ian have been able to cool things off on friendlier terms without almost getting into a fight?
I prefer the current approach rather than them being friends tbh. They're not meant to be friends. Whichever approach the player chooses to take in relation to Ian and Lena's dynamic, Axel isn't meant to be redeemable and the player shouldn't force him to be because his very character was designed to be an abusive dickhead. And it makes the least sense if Ian and Lena are a couple because "why would you wanna be friends with your girlfriend's abuser?"
 

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I prefer the current approach rather than them being friends tbh. They're not meant to be friends. Whichever approach the player chooses to take in relation to Ian and Lena's dynamic, Axel isn't meant to be redeemable and the player shouldn't force him to be because his very character was designed to be an abusive dickhead. And it makes the least sense if Ian and Lena are a couple because "why would you wanna be friends with your girlfriend's abuser?"
Yes it's like Ian and Jeremy are always friends even with bad RP
 

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I prefer the current approach rather than them being friends tbh. They're not meant to be friends. Whichever approach the player chooses to take in relation to Ian and Lena's dynamic, Axel isn't meant to be redeemable and the player shouldn't force him to be because his very character was designed to be an abusive dickhead. And it makes the least sense if Ian and Lena are a couple because "why would you wanna be friends with your girlfriend's abuser?"
Of course they'd be enemies if Lena is with Ian. I'm mostly talking about a scenario where Lena and Ian are only friends. As it stands the story feels way too focused on assuming that they get together at some point and I'm just looking for something to break that.

Axel is an abusive pos as shown with Robert. I don't think Eva ever intended to show that he's physically abusive towards Lena(although that's my interpretation). Besides cheating(that Ian and Lena can both do so it diminished the effect) what irredeemable actions has Axel committed as a character? I've avoided his route but it seems that Eva has him going down a route of redemption already. I don't think any character(besides a certain recent cameo) is totally irredeemable especially looking at how Seymour's route seems to be progressing.

I just think the friendship route would be interesting and make the game not feel so forced on the Lena/Ian pairing. This could have opened interesting scenarios involving Lena, Cindy and Cherry. I'm here for the drama and the two being friends seems like such a missed opportunity.
 
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Daddy is used for male doms most of the time. Just like Master or Sir, depends on the preference. It has nothing to do with age. It's just a relationship dynamic between the partners.
Yeah, i know, it's just personal thing. If they're not a decade older at the least, the best they can hope for is maybe oniichan. :sneaky:

(not really because that's cringe overload)
 

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There is an error in the code that ffive could probably explain better that might be the cause.

But how much did you protect Holly from Ivy? Because this sounds like something that's still possible if Holly is heavily influenced by Ivy, regardless of Lena's relationship to either girl.
 

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But how much did you protect Holly from Ivy? Because this sounds like something that's still possible if Holly is heavily influenced by Ivy, regardless of Lena's relationship to either girl.
The sad part is Holly doesn't even need to be influenced by Ivy all that much. Just having Holly sleep with Mark is enough to have her leap in the deep end.

Hopefully it'll be tweaked now that EK is aware of it, if they weren't before.
 

ionogo

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There is an error in the code that ffive could probably explain better that might be the cause.

But how much did you protect Holly from Ivy? Because this sounds like something that's still possible if Holly is heavily influenced by Ivy, regardless of Lena's relationship to either girl.
Lena and Holly did spend time nights with Ivy, lmcluding some girl-girl secenes (shower, Ivy's house), but generally Lena protected or engaged with Hooolly directly. I guess her corruption has more to do with Ivy's off-camera influence than choices made? I do recall Holly went out with Ivy once but Lena wasn't aware/invited. I guess that was it? Makes sense 'be like Lena = out of shell, but hanging with Ivy means corruption? In any case, it's a real continuity issue where in one scene Holly is the most content and loved she has ever felt, and in the next she is chugging on cocks.
 
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The sad part is Holly doesn't even need to be influenced by Ivy all that much. Just having Holly sleep with Mark is enough to have her leap in the deep end.

Hopefully it'll be tweaked now that EK is aware of it, if they weren't before.
I recall this choice at the club. My choice that night as Lena was not to encourage her to go for Mark, but to let her make her own choice. Lena did say on the phone at a later time to Holly that if she wants him, she should give a night to remember. Maybe that tipped her from innocent to litteral cock chugger?

I'm more fine with a 0-100 for a character, but in a love-based throuple with a side gig of gloryhole whore is a pretty stark change from one scene to the next.
 
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ffive

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I recall this choice at the club. My choice that night as Lena was not to encourage her to go for Mark, but to let her make her own choice. Lena did say on the phone at a later time to Holly that if she wants him, she should give a night to remember. Maybe that tipped her from innocent to litteral cock chugger?
Yes. If you had Holly sleep with a guy (either because she decided it herself or you've pushed her as Lena) that sets off change to "slut Holly". Logically this should've blocked the throuple from happening though (or involve more than just a hookup with a guy, the way it does currently) and there's a possibility it'll be addressed in future game update.
 

ionogo

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Yes. If you had Holly sleep with a guy (either because she decided it herself or you've pushed her as Lena) that sets off change to "slut Holly". Logically this should've blocked the throuple from happening though (or involve more than just a hookup with a guy, the way it does currently) and there's a possibility it'll be addressed in future game update.
Thanks for the info.
 
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