bobjustbob

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Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

Those planes have been built and available for use. I believe that this should be explored. I want to get more information about them. Who has them?
 
Re: Chemtrails : Aluminum & Other Poisons Falling From The Sky

Those planes have been built and available for use. I believe that this should be explored. I want to get more information about them. Who has them?

Well, Bob, if you are so sure that "those planes have been built, and are available for use", then why are you asking me about them ? Unless you are lying. Because there is no way you would be sure the planes have been built, unless you already knew which planes they are…

In any event, if you want to explore your plane scheme further then, by all means, go right ahead, however, I do not endorse such a scheme, nor do I believe it should be explored.

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Excerpt From New Jersey Health Dept Official Pens Personal Letter To Health Commissioner About Geoengineering

My name is Gary Attalla from New Jersey. I have worked for the New Jersey State Health Department for 36 years as an Environmental Health Specialist with a broad background in food safety and microbiology, water, pollutions, regulated medical waste, health care facilities and other issues. I graduated from Rutgers University with a science degree

"….Around January 2013, all at once I began to notice chem trails. It happened in an instant, if not less. Then I began to observe day in, day out ,the relentless spraying. I drive all over the state of NJ. Here is what I have noticed. At any given moment there are dozens of planes in the sky, criss crossing, going back and forth, parallel lines, half circles etc..with the pencil line trails, eventually fanning out to form, for lack of a better word; “clouds”. The sky then becomes milky white that i call 2%, really, and many times a strange iridescent purple. After observing for some time, i began to be able to immediately identify the plumes (that’s it, we’ll call them plumes) even if i did not see the actual planes. Then I came across a movie on You Tube called “What in The World Are They Spraying” on you tube, which eventually led me to Dane Wigington. I came to an independent conclusion (factoring in my background in public health and many days of research), that this is the most pressing issue facing us all. This information was passed on to my brother Mark, who lives 60 miles north of me. The exact same spraying is going on where he lives. .."

"...Breathing in toxic aluminum oxide, strontium, barium, silver iodide, mercury and other mystery chemicals (because testing can’t be done for everything) is the most pressing. And when it rains, the soil and food supply soak up these chemicals. So when you think your eating organic, you are not. Because this is going on worldwide and heavy in the USA, the chemicals travel with the trade winds, gulf stream and other winds, and can/do travel thousands of miles. So nobody is safe, not even the rich and famous…"


http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/...-to-health-commissioner-about-geoengineering/
 
Holy shit! It's a war against the farmers.

CALIFORNIA DECLARES DROUGHT STATE OF EMERGENCY WITH RIVER AND RESERVOIR WATER LEVELS BELOW RECORD LOWS



SAN FRANCISCO – With California facing water shortfalls in the driest year in recorded state history, Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. today proclaimed a State of Emergency and directed state officials to take all necessary actions to prepare for these drought conditions.

“We can’t make it rain, but we can be much better prepared for the terrible consequences that California’s drought now threatens, including dramatically less water for our farms and communities and increased fires in both urban and rural areas,” said Governor Brown. “I’ve declared this emergency and I’m calling all Californians to conserve water in every way possible.”

In the State of Emergency declaration, Governor Brown directed state officials to assist farmers and communities that are economically impacted by dry conditions and to ensure the state can respond if Californians face drinking water shortages. The Governor also directed state agencies to use less water and hire more firefighters and initiated a greatly expanded water conservation public awareness campaign (details at saveourh2o.org).

In addition, the proclamation gives state water officials more flexibility to manage supply throughout California under drought conditions.

State water officials say that California’s river and reservoirs are below their record lows. Manual and electronic readings record the snowpack’s statewide water content at about 20 percent of normal average for this time of year.

The Governor’s drought State of Emergency follows a series of actions the administration has taken to ensure that California is prepared for record dry conditions. In May 2013, Governor Brown issued an Executive Order to direct state water officials to expedite the review and processing of voluntary transfers of water and water rights. In December, the Governor formed a Drought Task Force to review expected water allocations, California’s preparedness for water scarcity and whether conditions merit a drought declaration. Earlier this week, the Governor toured the Central Valley and spoke with growers and others impacted by California’s record dry conditions.

Photo captions and the full text of the emergency proclamation are below:

1.) Governor Brown announces Drought State of Emergency with Natural Resources Agency Secretary John Laird, Department of Water Resources Director Mark Cowin, Water Resources Control Board Chair Felicia Marcus and Governor’s Office of Emergency Services Director Mark Ghilarducci (left to right). Photo Credit: Justin Short, Office of the Governor.

2.) Governor Brown signs proclamation declaring Drought State of Emergency. From left to right: CAL FIRE Director Chief Ken Pimlott, Department of Food and Agriculture Secretary Karen Ross, Secretary Laird, Director Cowin, Chair Marcus and Director Ghilarducci. Photo Credit: Justin Short, Office of the Governor.

For high resolution copies of these photos, please contact Danella Debel, Office of the Governor at Danella.Debel@gov.ca.gov.

A PROCLAMATION OF A STATE OF EMERGENCY


WHEREAS the State of California is experiencing record dry conditions, with 2014 projected to become the driest year on record; and

WHEREAS the state’s water supplies have dipped to alarming levels, indicated by: snowpack in California’s mountains is approximately 20 percent of the normal average for this date; California’s largest water reservoirs have very low water levels for this time of year; California’s major river systems, including the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers, have significantly reduced surface water flows; and groundwater levels throughout the state have dropped significantly; and

WHEREAS dry conditions and lack of precipitation present urgent problems: drinking water supplies are at risk in many California communities; fewer crops can be cultivated and farmers’ long-term investments are put at risk; low-income communities heavily dependent on agricultural employment will suffer heightened unemployment and economic hardship; animals and plants that rely on California’s rivers, including many species in danger of extinction, will be threatened; and the risk of wildfires across the state is greatly increased; and

WHEREAS extremely dry conditions have persisted since 2012 and may continue beyond this year and more regularly into the future, based on scientific projections regarding the impact of climate change on California’s snowpack; and

WHEREAS the magnitude of the severe drought conditions presents threats beyond the control of the services, personnel, equipment and facilities of any single local government and require the combined forces of a mutual aid region or regions to combat; and

WHEREAS under the provisions of section 8558(b) of the California Government Code, I find that conditions of extreme peril to the safety of persons and property exist in California due to water shortage and drought conditions with which local authority is unable to cope.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, EDMUND G. BROWN JR., Governor of the State of California, in accordance with the authority vested in me by the state Constitution and statutes, including the California Emergency Services Act, and in particular, section 8625 of the California Government Code HEREBY PROCLAIM A STATE OF EMERGENCY to exist in the State of California due to current drought conditions.

IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT:

1.State agencies, led by the Department of Water Resources, will execute a statewide water conservation campaign to make all Californians aware of the drought and encourage personal actions to reduce water usage. This campaign will be built on the existing Save Our Water campaign (www.saveourh20.org) and will coordinate with local water agencies. This campaign will call on Californians to reduce their water usage by 20 percent.

2.Local urban water suppliers and municipalities are called upon to implement their local water shortage contingency plans immediately in order to avoid or forestall outright restrictions that could become necessary later in the drought season. Local water agencies should also update their legally required urban and agricultural water management plans, which help plan for extended drought conditions. The Department of Water Resources will make the status of these updates publicly available.

3.State agencies, led by the Department of General Services, will immediately implement water use reduction plans for all state facilities. These plans will include immediate water conservation actions, and a moratorium will be placed on new, non-essential landscaping projects at state facilities and on state highways and roads.

4.The Department of Water Resources and the State Water Resources Control Board (Water Board) will expedite the processing of water transfers, as called for in Executive Order B-21-13. Voluntary water transfers from one water right holder to another enables water to flow where it is needed most.

5.The Water Board will immediately consider petitions requesting consolidation of the places of use of the State Water Project and Federal Central Valley Project, which would streamline water transfers and exchanges between water users within the areas of these two major water projects.

6.The Department of Water Resources and the Water Board will accelerate funding for water supply enhancement projects that can break ground this year and will explore if any existing unspent funds can be repurposed to enable near-term water conservation projects.

7.The Water Board will put water right holders throughout the state on notice that they may be directed to cease or reduce water diversions based on water shortages.

8.The Water Board will consider modifying requirements for reservoir releases or diversion limitations, where existing requirements were established to implement a water quality control plan. These changes would enable water to be conserved upstream later in the year to protect cold water pools for salmon and steelhead, maintain water supply, and improve water quality.

9.The Department of Water Resources and the Water Board will take actions necessary to make water immediately available, and, for purposes of carrying out directives 5 and 8, Water Code section 13247 and Division 13 (commencing with section 21000) of the Public Resources Code and regulations adopted pursuant to that Division are suspended on the basis that strict compliance with them will prevent, hinder, or delay the mitigation of the effects of the emergency. Department of Water Resources and the Water Board shall maintain on their websites a list of the activities or approvals for which these provisions are suspended.

10. The state’s Drinking Water Program will work with local agencies to identify communities that may run out of drinking water, and will provide technical and financial assistance to help these communities address drinking water shortages. It will also identify emergency interconnections that exist among the state’s public water systems that can help these threatened communities.

11.The Department of Water Resources will evaluate changing groundwater levels, land subsidence, and agricultural land fallowing as the drought persists and will provide a public update by April 30 that identifies groundwater basins with water shortages and details gaps in groundwater monitoring.

12.The Department of Water Resources will work with counties to help ensure that well drillers submit required groundwater well logs for newly constructed and deepened wells in a timely manner and the Office of Emergency Services will work with local authorities to enable early notice of areas experiencing problems with residential groundwater sources.

13.The California Department of Food and Agriculture will launch a one-stop website (www.cdfa.ca.gov/drought) that provides timely updates on the drought and connects farmers to state and federal programs that they can access during the drought.

14.The Department of Fish and Wildlife will evaluate and manage the changing impacts of drought on threatened and endangered species and species of special concern, and develop contingency plans for state Wildlife Areas and Ecological Reserves to manage reduced water resources in the public interest.

15. The Department of Fish and Wildlife will work with the Fish and Game Commission, using the best available science, to determine whether restricting fishing in certain areas will become necessary and prudent as drought conditions persist.

16.The Department of Water Resources will take necessary actions to protect water quality and water supply in the Delta, including installation of temporary barriers or temporary water supply connections as needed, and will coordinate with the Department of Fish and Wildlife to minimize impacts to affected aquatic species.

17.The Department of Water Resources will refine its seasonal climate forecasting and drought prediction by advancing new methodologies piloted in 2013.

18.The California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection will hire additional seasonal firefighters to suppress wildfires and take other needed actions to protect public safety during this time of elevated fire risk.

19.The state’s Drought Task Force will immediately develop a plan that can be executed as needed to provide emergency food supplies, financial assistance, and unemployment services in communities that suffer high levels of unemployment from the drought.

20.The Drought Task Force will monitor drought impacts on a daily basis and will advise me of subsequent actions that should be taken if drought conditions worsen.

I FURTHER DIRECT that as soon as hereafter possible, this Proclamation be filed in the Office of the Secretary of State and that widespread publicity and notice be given of this Proclamation.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Great Seal of the State of California to be affixed this 17th day of January, 2014.



______________________________
EDMUND G. BROWN JR.,
Governor of California

ATTEST:



______________________________
DEBRA BOWEN,
Secretary of State
 

bobjustbob

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"…As for cloud testing, there are only a few planes in the world that have the equipment to analyze the spray mix and can get to the CT altitudes (30,000+), clearance must be obtained to fly into the trails from the Military/DOD, and money must be raised for the minimum $22,000 per day plane rental fee. .."

Does this jar your memory?
 
Does this jar your memory?


You made a post disagreeing with me about that quote , and telling me that I was wrong, and that it was easy to get the type of plane that you thought would be necessary, so what is your point in going back and quoting me now, since you have already indicated that you believe otherwise ?


Nevertheless, when you get the aforementioned issue worked out, refer back to post #240 to further answer your question.
 

bobjustbob

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"…As for cloud testing, there are only a few planes in the world that have the equipment to analyze the spray mix and can get to the CT altitudes (30,000+), clearance must be obtained to fly into the trails from the Military/DOD, and money must be raised for the minimum $22,000 per day plane rental fee. .."[/


You told me about these planes and quoted a price. Where did you get those prices from?
 
You told me about these planes and quoted a price. Where did you get those prices from?


Refer back to post #240 to further answer your question. You told me that your scheme to get a plane was easy and would work, I still maintain otherwise.

Additionally, pursuant to expert testimony from The New Jersey Dept. Of Public Health further substantiating chemtrail spraying in that area, as indicated in post #242, said research plane fitting the current specifications necessary to achieve your ill-advised objective is not available to you.


Give it up Bob, you have been soundly whipped and defeated by me regarding this topic yet again. You're clinging to this last little ridiculous pseudo-argument about renting a research plane, an argument that you can't possibly win, is just pitiful.

Come up with something new, Bob, and Try Again.
 

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Quote Originally Posted by eric2136 View Post
"…As for cloud testing, there are only a few planes in the world that have the equipment to analyze the spray mix and can get to the CT altitudes (30,000+), clearance must be obtained to fly into the trails from the Military/DOD, and money must be raised for the minimum $22,000 per day plane rental fee. .."[/

You told me about these planes and quoted a price. Where did you get those prices from?

Answer the question. Who rents these planes?
 
Will these fit the bill http://www.airgreenland.com/charter/products/scientific-expeditions or we could just go whale counting ....... Bob you can't argue with someone that thinks David Icke is a scientist:brick:

I already said that the world renown author and lecturer, Mr. Icke, wasn't a scientist. In this particular sub-forum you would want to make sure you don't say such stupid things, like what you just said, or you will continually get embarrassed just like everyone else.

Further, if you and Bob are actually, in anyway, still perpetuating this utterly absurd notion that you are going to rent a research plane and fly into a fucking covert military operation, you too are waaaaayyyy less intelligent than I thought LOL

As I said, this thread deals with existing scientific evidence, your plane scheme is idiotic and will be dis-credited and ignored.
 

bobjustbob

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Quote Originally Posted by eric2136 View Post
"…As for cloud testing, there are only a few planes in the world that have the equipment to analyze the spray mix and can get to the CT altitudes (30,000+), clearance must be obtained to fly into the trails from the Military/DOD, and money must be raised for the minimum $22,000 per day plane rental fee. .."[/


Answer the question. Who rents these planes?
 
Ok, you graduated for the dumb remedial category, and have now entered into troll territory,,,so from now on any question posed by you, or any of the other stooges, regarding your idiotic chemtrail plane scheme will be given a standard response of insufficiency, or just ignored. You have lost miserably, yet again, Bob. Accept it and move on.

Get with the program, or otherwise you will only keep pathetically humiliating yourself by stupidly repeating yourself over and over again, and showing that you have nothing intelligent to say, and you can't accept defeat like a man. LOL

Answer the question. Who rents these planes?
 

bobjustbob

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Eric, your show is over. I gave you 7 chances to back up your claim of being able to rent a plane that can do this research. You refuse to give any more information about it because you made that up. You are a liar. False information. If you could have backed up your claim to rent a plane for $22,000 a day was real, you would have done so. You didn't. You have been called out and exposed. And the best part about this is that you did it to yourself. Zero credibility from you no matter how much you post on this subject. No one will ever believe anything you say because you are exposed as a full fledged liar.
 
Refer back to post #240 to further answer your question. You told me that your scheme to get a plane was easy and would work, I still maintain otherwise. Aslo Red XXX has offered you a resource to try and help your idiotic plane scheme that you were apparently to dumb to adequately research yourself.

Additionally, pursuant to expert testimony from The New Jersey Dept. Of Public Health further substantiating chemtrail spraying in that area, as indicated in post #242, said research plane fitting the current specifications necessary to achieve your ill-advised objective is not available to you.

Give it up Bob, you have been soundly whipped and defeated by me regarding this topic yet again. You're clinging to this last little ridiculous pseudo-argument about renting a research plane, an argument that you can't possibly win, is just pitiful.

Come up with something new, Bob, and Try Again.

Eric, your show is over. I gave you 7 chances to back up your claim of being able to rent a plane that can do this research. You refuse to give any more information about it because you made that up. You are a liar. False information. If you could have backed up your claim to rent a plane for $22,000 a day was real, you would have done so. You didn't. You have been called out and exposed. And the best part about this is that you did it to yourself. Zero credibility from you no matter how much you post on this subject. No one will ever believe anything you say because you are exposed as a full fledged liar.
 
NASA scientist, Dr. Rowland, who works at "NASA Goddard Space Flight Center as an Heliophysicist - Laboratory for Space Weather" Admits the constant spraying of chemtrails.

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Being questioned by Sue, a courageous and concerned citizen, NASA scientist Douglas E. Rowland admits chemtrails are real, during a phone conversation. Dr. Rowland gives details about when it all started: "It's been done in the 1970s, it's been done recently in the 1990s and 2000s." And continues: "the lithium release in the daytime ... hasn't been done since the 1970s."

http://humansarefree.com/2013/10/nasa-scientist-admits-chemtrails.html
 
Let me just add. Bob, that if you think anyone gives a rats ass about your uninformed opinion, or your ridiculous lame-brain plane schemes, you are not only an idiot, but delusional as well. This thread will continue on and will be successful and helpful in telling people the truth wether trolls like you are around riding coat tails or not. LOL
 

Rattrap

Doesn't feed trolls and would appreciate it if you
No one will ever believe anything you say because you are exposed as a full fledged liar.
And I applaud you for stringing him along patiently enough to let him build his own credibility noose.

Let me just add. Bob, that if you think anyone gives a rats ass about your uninformed opinion, or your ridiculous lame-brain plane schemes, you are not only an idiot, but delusional as well. This thread will continue on and will be successful and helpful in telling people the truth wether trolls like you are around riding coat tails or not. LOL
Eric, Eric, Eric...when will you understand that that is how all* of us here in the Politics feel about you**? But I bet you'll just say we're all trolls. But then what're you doing in all-troll forum?




* I bet you could convince Will. So let's say 'all' minus the two of you.
** I apologize for speaking for everyone, but I figure it's a safe statement.
 
LOL There is no all…just you …and I was expecting you, you garbage little cartoon rat troll, you already know that no one gives a fuck what you think,,,be gone rat terd troll ! LOL

Eric, Eric, Eric...when will you understand that that is how all* of us here in the Politics feel about you**? But I bet you'll just say we're all trolls. But then what're you doing in all-troll forum?




* I bet you could convince Will. So let's say 'all' minus the two of you.
** I apologize for speaking for everyone, but I figure it's a safe statement.
 
And you know what else Mr rat terd, I just looked thru the front page of this forum to see who the fuck you are and why you are even talking to me, and all i see is one dumb ass little lame thread created by you with 200 views…you are a nobody even amongst your supposed e-buddies….LOL Get lost idiot. LOL
 
Swedish Official Admits Toxic ‘Chemtrails’ Are Real

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Those long, white streams of persistent, cloudy haze commonly blasted into blue skies by unmarked airplanes are not your typical contrails, says Swedish Green Party leader Pernilla Hagberg. As reported by the Swedish paper Katrineholms Kuriren,Hagberg, the first major political leader to come forward on the issue, has openly admitted that these unusual cloud trails, which fail to dissipate like normal contrails do, are actually a toxic mix of chemicals, viruses, and metals that she has collectively referred to as “Chemtrails.”

According to Hagberg, the sprayings are a joint endeavor by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), as well as the Swedish government in her own country, to modify atmospheric conditions via deliberate aerosol spraying efforts. And included in this “dangerous” mix of aerosols are various chemical components, viruses and viral fragments, and metals such as aluminum and barium, which have already been shown to be accumulating in water supplies and soils around the world. (http://chemtrails.cc/)
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Former premiere of British Columbia acknowledges chemtrails in public letter

"…In government circles it is referred to as “Geo-engineering”, it’s manipulating the earth weather system. Scary stuff, especially when we consider the enormous capabilities of the HAARP technology. For the purpose of our submission, to seek information, Geo-engineering and Chem-Trails are defined as a military-industrial complex program in partnership with private contractors and possibly major fuel suppliers and airline companies, whereby planes spray particulate matter into the atmosphere that would otherwise not be there…."

http://theglobalelite.org/retired-t...xposes-chemtrails-puts-politicians-on-notice/
 
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