The apathy of this board towards the Mike Brown shooting in Ferguson is commendable.

Mayhem

Banned
Dear Leader forced himself and his DOJ into what should have been a purely local matter but the media bias is strong with this one. I believe anyone who runs for a national office on a major ticket qualifies as a politician. And I am a quality poster, you're just jealous because I get more love.

The Right-wing that used to exist would tell you that the President involves himself in whatever the People tell him to involve himself in. But of course, the rules change once someone you don't like gets elected.

I believe that your loyalty towards an insipid moron who couldn't handle being Governor of the easiest state in the Union for more than a half term speaks volumes to your own intelligence. And I believe that anyome who quits any job because they can't handle it no longer deserves the title that goes with that job. (And so do you. You're just being...you)

And no, you're a quality poser and the only love you get is the kind that used to come with a studio audience chanting, "Jer-ee, Jer-ee, Jer-ee."
 

Ace Boobtoucher

Founder and Captain of the Douchepatrol
No, this dickhead has a history of speaking out during ongoing investigations and trials when he should shut the fuck up. Show me one other post where I've worshipped at the altar of Palin and I'll give you that reacharound I promised last Christmas.
 

Mayhem

Banned
No, this dickhead has a history of speaking out during ongoing investigations and trials when he should shut the fuck up. Show me one other post where I've worshipped at the altar of Palin and I'll give you that reacharound I promised last Christmas.

Calm down Pookie. Jeez, for a guy that dishes it out like you do, you don't have much hair on your sack. :facepalm: *Note to self: Use more smileys when communicating with Ace. I don't know why, they just seem to work better.*

I didn't say you worshipped Palin. But you decided to defend her under circumstances where you would be going to town on anyone else. And you did it where you knew you'd get a reply from me. Don't blame me for pressing the next piece into the jigsaw puzzle. It's merely where it's supposed to go.
 

Jagger69

Three lullabies in an ancient tongue
You forgot the "Rozelle" headband.

No I remember that extremely well. I saw it live on TV when McMahon stuck his tongue out at the camera wearing the "Rozelle" headband. Supposedly, Rozelle thought it was funny....at least that's the official story....just not funny enough to lift the original fine. Too bad Jim has permanent brain damage.
 

bobjustbob

Proud member of FreeOnes Hall Of Fame. Retired to
"Inspector Clouseau, you saw the suspect pull a gun at the robbery, why didn't you shoot him?"

"Citizens don't carry guns in France so it logically was a toy gun."

"Call me when you get out of the hospital."
 

Supafly

Retired Mod
Bronze Member
First: I think many of us have a wrong impression about what it would have meaant if the Grand Jury regarding the Ferguson case had decided differently. They would not have spoken a sentence over him, they just would basically allowed a trial, in which the police officer could have been judged either way.

But they did not, and that is a serious mistake. And it goes on from there. The next case is on:

In New York, another black man gets put to death, this time even directly in front of a camera. It is plain to see he did not attack the officer. The second officer, coming from behind, takes him in a lethal choke hold, which cuts off his bteathing eventually, and Eric Garner dies later, because of this.

Not even a trial.

 
Dude, there is a goldmine of untapped Palin porn, don't take Sarah or Bristols name in vain... My jerk off hand is so ready for a mother daughter tag team in 2016.

No, this dickhead has a history of speaking out during ongoing investigations and trials when he should shut the fuck up. Show me one other post where I've worshipped at the altar of Palin and I'll give you that reacharound I promised last Christmas.
 
Sir Charles weighs in (pardon the pun):

FERGUSON, Mo. (CBS St. Louis) – NBA Hall of Famer Charles Barkley is defending police officers, calling it “ridiculous” that people claim white cops are just out there killing black people.

Speaking to CNN on Tuesday, Barkley stated that if it wasn’t for police, the ghetto would be like the “wild, wild west.”

“The notion that white cops are out there just killing black people – that’s ridiculous. That’s just flat-out ridiculous,” the TNT basketball analyst told CNN. “I challenge any black person to try to make that point. Cops are actually awesome. They are the only thing in the ghetto between this place being the wild, wild west. So this notion that cops are out there just killing black men is ridiculous and I hate that narrative coming out of this entire situation.”

Barkley previously had strong words about the violent protesters in Ferguson, calling them “scumbags” for looting and setting businesses on fire after officer Darren Wilson was not indicted in the death of Michael Brown. He told CNN the only time America discusses race is when something bad happens.

“We’ve always had a racial issue in this country and the biggest problem with it is we never discuss race until something bad happens. We never have meaningful dialogue over a cold beer when things are going good,” Barkley explained to CNN. “When something bad happens, everybody has a tribe mentality. Everybody wants to protect their own tribe, whether they’re right or wrong.”

Barkley stated that there’s a reason why police racially profile the black community.

“We as black people, we got a lot of crooks. We can’t just wait until something like this happens. We have to look at ourselves in the mirror,” Barkley told CNN. “There’s a reason they racially profile us at times. Sometimes it’s wrong, sometimes it’s right. To act like we hold no responsibility for some of this stuff is disingenuous.”

Barkley also said that there needs to be stronger black leaders, and not the same case of “sad characters.”

“Every time something happens in the black community, we have the same cast of sad characters. We don’t have to have Al Sharpton go there.”

Barkley continued: “We need some strong black men in St. Louis to stand up and say ‘Hey, let’s handle this situation.’”

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/12/03/barkley-defends-police-following-ferguson/
 
First: I think many of us have a wrong impression about what it would have meaant if the Grand Jury regarding the Ferguson case had decided differently. They would not have spoken a sentence over him, they just would basically allowed a trial, in which the police officer could have been judged either way.

But they did not, and that is a serious mistake.

In this country you have to have probable cause to charge someone with a crime. That standard could not be met based on the evidence the Grand Jury was presented. And indictment shouldn't be brought to appease political and public pressure. If the prosecutor couldn't even get probable cause to indict how would he have gotten beyond a reasonable doubt to convict in a trial? If one of the two parties in this shooting were a different color, it wouldn't have even gone to a grand jury.
 
Bottom line, and I made this point earlier in this thread, if the police tell you to do something then fucking comply. And if you believe that white cops are racist and looking for an excuse to shoot you because you're black then even more reason to do so. If you resist arrest like what happened with Eric Garner, the police are going to escalate force. If you were wrongly arrested then you have recourse, but what the fuck are you going to do in that moment other than get yourself hurt or killed by resisting arrest or even more fucking stupid, assaulting an officer?
 
In New York, another black man gets put to death, this time even directly in front of a camera. It is plain to see he did not attack the officer. The second officer, coming from behind, takes him in a lethal choke hold, which cuts off his bteathing eventually, and Eric Garner dies later, because of this.

Not even a trial.

Laws don't apply when white cops kill black men, there are above the law, they never have to face the consequences of their actions.
I'm not saying that, in this case, the cop should have been charged with First Degree Murder but not at least simple assault ?!
 
By this point it should be obvious that baring a notarized letter from God stating somebody's guilt it will pretty much be impossible to even get an officer of the law to trial in a lot of areas let alone convict them. It's not exactly a nice thought. I also think it's ridiculous how much benefit of the doubt they get. It's past the point of all reason, and the rest of our society doesn't get the benefit of that. I'm sure they people they think are criminals won't get that from the police, let alone all us norms.
 
By this point it should be obvious that baring a notarized letter from God stating somebody's guilt it will pretty much be impossible to even get an officer of the law to trial in a lot of areas let alone convict them. It's not exactly a nice thought. I also think it's ridiculous how much benefit of the doubt they get. It's past the point of all reason, and the rest of our society doesn't get the benefit of that. I'm sure they people they think are criminals won't get that from the police, let alone all us norms.

D-bag, if a police officer said you were under arrest (regardless of what it was for, and for the record, police confronting this guy for selling individual cigarettes is total f'n bullshit but that's the nanny state you all in NYC voted for <and deserve>), would you smack his hands away and resist? What do you think would happen next?
 

Harpsman

Light one for Me
The footage of the guy being arrested in the choke lock was shocking. It was brutality.

Circumstances, which some may argue justified the restraint, became irrelevant somewhere between the 6th and 11th time the guy saying he couldn't breathe.

Dreadful.
 
The footage of the guy being arrested in the choke lock was shocking. It was brutality.

Circumstances, which some may argue justified the restraint, became irrelevant somewhere between the 6th and 11th time the guy saying he couldn't breathe.

Dreadful.

Yeah, that's the part I have a problem with. Other than he should've been left alone to begin with.
 
D-bag, if a police officer said you were under arrest (regardless of what it was for, and for the record, police confronting this guy for selling individual cigarettes is total f'n bullshit but that's the nanny state you all in NYC voted for <and deserve>), would you smack his hands away and resist? What do you think would happen next?

What I would do is irrelevant. I expect officers of the law to conduct themselves in a professional, ethical, and constitutional manner at all times. I expect them to use reasonable judgment at all times, and use appropriate force and no more at all times, and yes I realize there are times when that does indeed call for lethal force. I expect them show restraint when it helps the situation. I expect them to show empathy for those they are to protect. I expect them to think of everybody as innocent until proven guilty in the court of law. I expect the public to not be under a higher standard than them; it should be the opposite. I expect them to willingly take appropriate punishments for their wrongdoing. With more power should come more responsibility and higher standards to live by, not less. I expect them to come forward with any knowledge of wrongdoing that their peers in law enforcement do and fight against those people just as adamantly as they do all the other criminals. If that upsets them as it makes their jobs harder, puts them at more risk, or just inconveniences them they are more than free to find another line of work as they don’t deserve the one they have.

All the people in any organization like that or any pubic office are public servants and thus are subservient to the public, not people with more power than us that can go on power trips when it suits them because they know they can probably get away with it.
 
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